First Victim on Road to Abu Ghraib

Should Congress or the US Department of Justice – or perhaps Spanish Investigating Magistrate Baltasar Garzon – ever decide to seriously prosecute those in the US who are responsible for the Bush/Cheney administration’s policy of torturing captives in the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars and the so-called “War” on Terror, they should go back and examine the case of imprisoned American John Walker Lindh, the young man who was captured with Taliban fighters back in the early days of the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. FULL ARTICLE

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#1 CrystalF on 05.10.09 at 12:40 am

I can hardly explain how frustrated and angry I can get over the fact that no one is getting prosecuted for these kinds of crimes. What will history say about how horrible this country has become?

#2 Josh Errea on 05.10.09 at 12:59 am

First of many. Just disgusting how this man has been treated as less than human.

#3 Cliff Carson on 05.10.09 at 6:05 pm

John Walker Lindh is still alive.  On the other hand Manadel al Jamidi is not.  Jamidi was tortured to death at Abu Gharib, one of two tortured to death at Abu Gharib on November 4th, 2003.

He was a victim of Palestinian hanging.

Speaking of innocent, there is no evidence that he was anything other than just another Iraqi rounded up in a sweep of an area.  One of those sweeps where every Iraqi Male from 14 to 65 was brought in for questioning.  Sometimes females were also brought in.

Jamidi was tortured to death by Navy Seals and were aided by Mercenaries.  So was the other torture victim at Abu Gharib that night.  Lindh will possibly have a chance at redemption.  Jamaidi and his unknown co-victim that night will not.

They didn’t give the torturers the information they were looking for because they probably didn’t know what it was they were supposed to admit to.

The two were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and it was their misfortune to be brought to face the finest of the finest.  And their to misfortune to be innocent. 

The eyewitnesses to the torture said Jamidi never uttered a word.  When released from the torture of having his hands shackled behind his body and then having his body raised off the ground by attaching a hoist to those wrist shackles , those witnesses said blood flowed from his mouth and nostrils like water from a fountain.

A female soldier had her picture taken standing over his corpse while giving the “V for Victory” sign.  You’ve probably seen it.

#4 John Anderson on 05.11.09 at 9:41 am

Sometimes I wonder if they arrest and torture – and then leak out the pictures, to enrage people in the Arab world to attack.

And then that gives them the excuse to bomb more people.

#5 Paul Angelo on 05.11.09 at 10:26 pm

I really don’t care what they do to this John Walker Lindh. He was training to be a butcher. The Taliban need to be elimanted from this earth and I felt that way before September 11th. When they destroyed the Buddahs of Bamyan I was enraged. These statues were built in the 6th century and they had no right to destroy them! Also the the way they treat women is discusting and John Walker Lindh wanted to be one of them. He chose his path and now must live with the mistake. At least he is still alive and more than likely he will see freedom one day because our country will forget about September 11th and feel pity for him being stuck in a cell. I for one will never forget!

#6 Michael Boldin on 05.12.09 at 7:04 am

Wait, so let me get this straight Paul. You’re saying that you support violence, war, and the collateral damage of killing women and children – and name as one of your reasons for this the destruction of a statue of Buddha? That is one of the most absurd statements I’ve seen in support of war yet.

Here’s what Buddha himself said:

“Hatred is never overcome by hatred, hatred is overcome by love. This is a law eternal.”

#7 Cliff Carson on 05.12.09 at 5:45 pm

And who will cry for Jamidi?  And the hundreds of others who were tortured to death?  And the tens of thousands who were tortured?
How many torturers have been executed for torturing to death those people, most of who were innocent of anything?

Over a million people have died from the lies uttered to gin up the war against Iraq.  Over 4 million were displaced.  Who is left to pine for them?

I think those who are responsible should be tried and if found guilty they should suffer a punishment they will guarantee that other would be despots will think twice before going down the same path.

But the hardest thing for me to understand is how people who claim to be Christians can support the torture of another human being.

#8 Paul Angelo on 05.13.09 at 11:56 am

“And who will cry for Jamidi?” Who will cry for the decapitated bodies found by Pakistani forces after fought against Taliban in their country?  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090513/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan;_ylt=AnarM9qgTJqWX.7SBptN78PZn414

Hey at least John Walker Lindh wasn’t decapitated, he is still alive to run back to Pakistan and help his brothers die when he is released from prison.

#9 Frank-O on 05.13.09 at 12:39 pm

That’s the problem.  Every day “crimes” get punished to the fullest extent, but the biggest criminals, the mass murderers, get off scott free.

#10 Cliff Carson on 05.13.09 at 7:25 pm

Paul.  How many of those people you mentioned did Manadel Al Jamidi harm?  What did Jamidi do ?

Didn’t you read what I wrote or didn’t you at least google Manadel Al Jamidi?   Jamidi was the first I knew of being tortured to death.  And if you will google some of the links that come up when you put his name in and hit go, you will find that he was tortured to death by Navy Seals and Mercenaries.  You will also find that he was not the only detainee to be tortured to death at Abu Gharib that night.

No one can prove he did anything and he was just one person picked up in a sweep where every person between 14 and 65 were arrested and brought in for questioning.

So don’t defend the torture of Jamidi because an American was tortured.  Al Jamidi had nothing to do with their death.  Matter of fact no one can even prove he was anything except a family man.  An Arab.

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