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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, thanks for the follow up.  Some great suggestions as usual.  We&#039;re taking a bit of a one-step-at-a-time approach, and the edit function seems to be helping improve commenters&#039; experience.  We&#039;ve already tested a few preview add-ons, but have found most to be a bit buggy when looking across browser platforms.  I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll come up with a good solution eventually....along with a number of other upgrades.

You can always check the &quot;changelog&quot; link on the right sidebar here to see what&#039;s going on with site improvements.  Thanks again fo the input!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, thanks for the follow up.  Some great suggestions as usual.  We&#8217;re taking a bit of a one-step-at-a-time approach, and the edit function seems to be helping improve commenters&#8217; experience.  We&#8217;ve already tested a few preview add-ons, but have found most to be a bit buggy when looking across browser platforms.  I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll come up with a good solution eventually&#8230;.along with a number of other upgrades.</p>
<p>You can always check the &#8220;changelog&#8221; link on the right sidebar here to see what&#8217;s going on with site improvements.  Thanks again fo the input!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Neitzke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Neitzke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael -- Thanks for the code clean-up.  Vast improvement.  Seems that the best edit packages have included a preview function so that errors can be minimized before submission, a pass-word protected  edit function for access after submission, and a update date block so that readers know which version they&#039;re reading.   One of the best of the edit packages cut off updates at two weeks after initial submission -- kept matters predicably clean.  Not trying to steal your thunder.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve noticed the best of the edit packages, too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8212; Thanks for the code clean-up.  Vast improvement.  Seems that the best edit packages have included a preview function so that errors can be minimized before submission, a pass-word protected  edit function for access after submission, and a update date block so that readers know which version they&#8217;re reading.   One of the best of the edit packages cut off updates at two weeks after initial submission &#8212; kept matters predicably clean.  Not trying to steal your thunder.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve noticed the best of the edit packages, too. </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, a great wealth of information here.   I wasn&#039;t familiar with Zimmerman at all, and am looking forward to reading some of his work in the near future.

One of my favorite reads - and a great motivator to me - is &quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/dp/0807847860?tag=populistparty-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as4&amp;creativeASIN=0807847860&amp;adid=0QX7Y4KM5BS4XFFECVXW&amp;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Other Founders: Anti-Federalism and the Dissenting Tradition in America, 1788-1828&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; by Saul Cornell.  Not necessarily for the drive-by reader, but really good stuff for someone interested in the reality that there&#039;s a great tradition for radical movements in this country.

Oh, and I did my best to clean up the code on your previous comment.  You&#039;re not the only one asking for edit capabilities...working on getting that implemented soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, a great wealth of information here.   I wasn&#8217;t familiar with Zimmerman at all, and am looking forward to reading some of his work in the near future.</p>
<p>One of my favorite reads &#8211; and a great motivator to me &#8211; is &#8220;<strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/0807847860?tag=populistparty-20&amp;camp=0&amp;creative=0&amp;linkCode=as4&amp;creativeASIN=0807847860&amp;adid=0QX7Y4KM5BS4XFFECVXW&amp;" rel="nofollow">The Other Founders: Anti-Federalism and the Dissenting Tradition in America, 1788-1828</a></strong>&#8221; by Saul Cornell.  Not necessarily for the drive-by reader, but really good stuff for someone interested in the reality that there&#8217;s a great tradition for radical movements in this country.</p>
<p>Oh, and I did my best to clean up the code on your previous comment.  You&#8217;re not the only one asking for edit capabilities&#8230;working on getting that implemented soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Neitzke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Neitzke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d clean that mess up, but can&#039;t find any edit access.</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen Neitzke</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.populistamerica.com/2009/01/23/vermont-the-first-populist-republic/comment-page-1/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Neitzke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen Tran -- I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right about the history of &#039;direct democracy&#039; being more buried now -- in both Colonial and Reform Eras -- than it was during your school days.
Please note that Adrian Kuzminski&#039;s clarity stumbles a bit when he handles the role of community in today&#039;s intentionally fragmented politics. Adrian is purely talking about direct democracy. He&#039;s not introducing anything mystical or transcendental in a community override of the individual. He&#039;s just saying that the individual had a unity with community politics then that we do not have now. Everyone should re-read those paragraphs of his carefully. He&#039;s raised an important distinction between how we are able to be community-directed and community-supported in a direct democracy system as opposed to how me are severely limited in any community-directed behavior in today&#039;s politics, which are the politics initiated by and still-defined by the Constitution.
For an analysis of how politics under the Constitution fails to deliver the direct democracy political system that the Declaration Of Independence (DOI) promised -- and that all American patriots fought for in the Revolution -- see my essay, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ddleague-usa.net/exec.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Executive Summary of Direct Democracy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

For the best balanced pro-and-con discussion of the broad spectrum of direct democracy, see Professor Joe Zimmerman&#039;s four books --

Joseph F. Zimmerman, Participatory Democracy: Populism Revived; New York: Praeger, 1986.
 
Joseph F. Zimmerman, The New England Town Meeting: Democracy In Action. Westport, CT: Praeger Publishers, March 1999.

Joseph F. Zimmerman, The Initiative: Citizen Law-Making. Westport, CT: Praeger Publishers, December 1999.
 
Joseph F. Zimmerman,The Referendum: The People Decide Public Policy. Westport, CT: Praeger Publishers, 2001.
 
His volume, The New England Town Meeting will be particulary valuable as a companion to Professor Miller&#039;s book, cited in my first comment, above.

Joe Zimmerman is on my short list of heroes.  There is a huge institutional bias against any professor who writes truths about direct democracy, no matter how milquetoast and non-revolutionary.  Zimmerman&#039;s work took more courage than can be imagined outside the hallowed halls of history-doing.  He has gone against the vast majority of his peers, whom we direct democracy advocates derisively call, &quot;Madisonian scholars&quot;.  They are the ones who perpetrate the continuation of the Constitution&#039;s no-compromise system, which favors the predator elites.

That said, Joe Zimmerman&#039;s balance with pro and con -- giving both sides of all arguments -- is no longer something that I can support.  I&#039;ve become convinced that anti-direct-democracy is flatly evil -- and that giving evil any &quot;due&quot; is a foolish waste of time.  I&#039;m convinced that we cannot reason with evil.  It&#039;s proponents certainly will not reason with us.  See Bush&#039;s war dances.

Beyond Zimmerman, there is one slender, expensive book that you should drop in your backpack for continuous study for the next decade or so.

Kris W. Kobach, The Referendum: Direct Democracy In Switzerland. England and Vermont: Dartmouth Publishing Co., 1993.

Maddeningly without an index, it is about how the Swiss do it.  The title is a bit of a misnomer, however.  Kobach richly compares several other national and US-state direct democracy systems with how the Swiss do it.  Get the book and then don&#039;t let it out of your reach.  When Americans do finally devise their own national direct democracy system, much of it will will come from Kobach&#039;s text.

Lastly, you asked about the Anti-Federalist Papers.  I encourage you to launch that study -- and the Federalist Papers re-study -- as on-going, semi-permanent projects.

The two groups of papers are hallowed stuff for Americans.  How you study the two sets, the comparisons you draw out, and the lessons you derive from them, will tell the tale of what sort of American you are.

Note please that the Federalist Papers were the ratification bible for the predator elites.  The classical sophistry, vacuous arguments, distorted facts, and outright lies are stacked wide and deep. 
The money-power-grubbing literal bastard, Hamilton, is the lynch pin for Federalist Papers scams.  Dealing with his texts becomes painlessly easy after reading  this one particular book --

George A. Kennedy, translator, Aristotle On Rhetoric:  A Theory of Civil Discourse, Oxford University Press, 1991.

Kennedy writes for the non-philosopher, non-Greek-speaking layman.  The book is a tour &#039;d force in producing English-language clarity of Aristotle&#039;s original work on rhetoric.  When you&#039;ve finished it, not only will your appreciation of persuasion be way up there, but Hamilton&#039;s evil tricks and traps in the Federalist Papers will be transparent   Aristotlean logic, sub-logic, and rhetoric was all Hamilton had to do his tricky traps.  He must have thought that he was very good with Aristotlean ways.  He wasn&#039;t.  His tricky traps, exposed by Kennedy&#039;s smooth teaching, seem only a juvenile appreciation of Aristotle&#039;s teaching.  Hamilton&#039;s logical and rhetorical prowess is flatly juvenile.

Good luck to us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen Tran &#8212; I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right about the history of &#8216;direct democracy&#8217; being more buried now &#8212; in both Colonial and Reform Eras &#8212; than it was during your school days.<br />
Please note that Adrian Kuzminski&#8217;s clarity stumbles a bit when he handles the role of community in today&#8217;s intentionally fragmented politics. Adrian is purely talking about direct democracy. He&#8217;s not introducing anything mystical or transcendental in a community override of the individual. He&#8217;s just saying that the individual had a unity with community politics then that we do not have now. Everyone should re-read those paragraphs of his carefully. He&#8217;s raised an important distinction between how we are able to be community-directed and community-supported in a direct democracy system as opposed to how me are severely limited in any community-directed behavior in today&#8217;s politics, which are the politics initiated by and still-defined by the Constitution.<br />
For an analysis of how politics under the Constitution fails to deliver the direct democracy political system that the Declaration Of Independence (DOI) promised &#8212; and that all American patriots fought for in the Revolution &#8212; see my essay, &#8220;<strong><a href="http://ddleague-usa.net/exec.html" rel="nofollow">Executive Summary of Direct Democracy</a></strong></p>
<p>For the best balanced pro-and-con discussion of the broad spectrum of direct democracy, see Professor Joe Zimmerman&#8217;s four books &#8211;</p>
<p>Joseph F. Zimmerman, Participatory Democracy: Populism Revived; New York: Praeger, 1986.<br />
 <br />
Joseph F. Zimmerman, The New England Town Meeting: Democracy In Action. Westport, CT: Praeger Publishers, March 1999.</p>
<p>Joseph F. Zimmerman, The Initiative: Citizen Law-Making. Westport, CT: Praeger Publishers, December 1999.<br />
 <br />
Joseph F. Zimmerman,The Referendum: The People Decide Public Policy. Westport, CT: Praeger Publishers, 2001.<br />
 <br />
His volume, The New England Town Meeting will be particulary valuable as a companion to Professor Miller&#8217;s book, cited in my first comment, above.</p>
<p>Joe Zimmerman is on my short list of heroes.  There is a huge institutional bias against any professor who writes truths about direct democracy, no matter how milquetoast and non-revolutionary.  Zimmerman&#8217;s work took more courage than can be imagined outside the hallowed halls of history-doing.  He has gone against the vast majority of his peers, whom we direct democracy advocates derisively call, &#8220;Madisonian scholars&#8221;.  They are the ones who perpetrate the continuation of the Constitution&#8217;s no-compromise system, which favors the predator elites.</p>
<p>That said, Joe Zimmerman&#8217;s balance with pro and con &#8212; giving both sides of all arguments &#8212; is no longer something that I can support.  I&#8217;ve become convinced that anti-direct-democracy is flatly evil &#8212; and that giving evil any &#8220;due&#8221; is a foolish waste of time.  I&#8217;m convinced that we cannot reason with evil.  It&#8217;s proponents certainly will not reason with us.  See Bush&#8217;s war dances.</p>
<p>Beyond Zimmerman, there is one slender, expensive book that you should drop in your backpack for continuous study for the next decade or so.</p>
<p>Kris W. Kobach, The Referendum: Direct Democracy In Switzerland. England and Vermont: Dartmouth Publishing Co., 1993.</p>
<p>Maddeningly without an index, it is about how the Swiss do it.  The title is a bit of a misnomer, however.  Kobach richly compares several other national and US-state direct democracy systems with how the Swiss do it.  Get the book and then don&#8217;t let it out of your reach.  When Americans do finally devise their own national direct democracy system, much of it will will come from Kobach&#8217;s text.</p>
<p>Lastly, you asked about the Anti-Federalist Papers.  I encourage you to launch that study &#8212; and the Federalist Papers re-study &#8212; as on-going, semi-permanent projects.</p>
<p>The two groups of papers are hallowed stuff for Americans.  How you study the two sets, the comparisons you draw out, and the lessons you derive from them, will tell the tale of what sort of American you are.</p>
<p>Note please that the Federalist Papers were the ratification bible for the predator elites.  The classical sophistry, vacuous arguments, distorted facts, and outright lies are stacked wide and deep. <br />
The money-power-grubbing literal bastard, Hamilton, is the lynch pin for Federalist Papers scams.  Dealing with his texts becomes painlessly easy after reading  this one particular book &#8211;</p>
<p>George A. Kennedy, translator, Aristotle On Rhetoric:  A Theory of Civil Discourse, Oxford University Press, 1991.</p>
<p>Kennedy writes for the non-philosopher, non-Greek-speaking layman.  The book is a tour &#8216;d force in producing English-language clarity of Aristotle&#8217;s original work on rhetoric.  When you&#8217;ve finished it, not only will your appreciation of persuasion be way up there, but Hamilton&#8217;s evil tricks and traps in the Federalist Papers will be transparent   Aristotlean logic, sub-logic, and rhetoric was all Hamilton had to do his tricky traps.  He must have thought that he was very good with Aristotlean ways.  He wasn&#8217;t.  His tricky traps, exposed by Kennedy&#8217;s smooth teaching, seem only a juvenile appreciation of Aristotle&#8217;s teaching.  Hamilton&#8217;s logical and rhetorical prowess is flatly juvenile.</p>
<p>Good luck to us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Tran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Tran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian, Stephen, thank you both for this introductory course in Vermont&#039;s populist history.  This is definitely not something that they taught about when I was in school.  I can only assume that it&#039;s even further from the curriculum than it was 20-30 years ago.

Looking forward to reading more soon - would either of you recommend reading the Anti-Federalist papers?  It&#039;s something I&#039;ve wanted to do for some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, Stephen, thank you both for this introductory course in Vermont&#8217;s populist history.  This is definitely not something that they taught about when I was in school.  I can only assume that it&#8217;s even further from the curriculum than it was 20-30 years ago.</p>
<p>Looking forward to reading more soon &#8211; would either of you recommend reading the Anti-Federalist papers?  It&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve wanted to do for some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Neitzke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Neitzke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian -- Thanks for pumping up the surprising direct democracy latitudes of the Colonial Period.  As you&#039;ve clearly shown, the many facets of life among ordinary Americans in pursuit of real  democracy is well worth our study time today.

I think we&#039;ll spring-board off the Colonial and Reform Era democracy solutions -- rather than straightforwardly adopt whole systems from the earlier times -- but in-detail study of those earlier solutions will certainly points the way for us.  Sustainability and transparency were two political benchmarks of the times.  We can learn a lot from the earlier direct democracy efforts for the creation of our own future systems.

Systematic study of Colonial and Reform Era DD efforsts, is difficult to say the least.  The predators have blocked evry pathway imaginable.  Your monograph here has many exciting sapects.  But fitting your work into the broad envelope of the period&#039;s explored possibilities is even more exciting -- if the reader can find the way.

 Let me recommend one short book as a sort of period organizer.

Joshua I. Miller, &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Rise And Fall Of Democracy In Early America, 1630--1789: The Legacy For Contemporary Politics.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; University Park, PA&lt;strong&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; Pennsylvania State University Press, 1991.

Democracy activists today are working aainst hundreds of years of systematic  dumb-down done by the predator elites.  Direct democracy means lots of rights and freedoms.  That stuff knocks corruption-driven profits and power for the favored few right in the head. 

 Across all of human history, there&#039;ve been very few effective chanllenges to the dominance of the predators.  Got money, weapons, and private armies?  Willing to lie, cheat, and murder for profits and power?  Then you and your posterity rule -- for thousands of years at a time.

Two big, effective challenges to the predators were the direct democracy solutions developed in the American Colonial and Reform Eras.  The predators will sacrifice any of us to keep the majority dumbed-down about how easily predators can be controlled by direct democracy. 

Read, study, think, discuss -- and question everything. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian &#8212; Thanks for pumping up the surprising direct democracy latitudes of the Colonial Period.  As you&#8217;ve clearly shown, the many facets of life among ordinary Americans in pursuit of real  democracy is well worth our study time today.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ll spring-board off the Colonial and Reform Era democracy solutions &#8212; rather than straightforwardly adopt whole systems from the earlier times &#8212; but in-detail study of those earlier solutions will certainly points the way for us.  Sustainability and transparency were two political benchmarks of the times.  We can learn a lot from the earlier direct democracy efforts for the creation of our own future systems.</p>
<p>Systematic study of Colonial and Reform Era DD efforsts, is difficult to say the least.  The predators have blocked evry pathway imaginable.  Your monograph here has many exciting sapects.  But fitting your work into the broad envelope of the period&#8217;s explored possibilities is even more exciting &#8212; if the reader can find the way.</p>
<p> Let me recommend one short book as a sort of period organizer.</p>
<p>Joshua I. Miller, <em><strong>The Rise And Fall Of Democracy In Early America, 1630&#8211;1789: The Legacy For Contemporary Politics.</strong></em> University Park, PA<strong>:</strong> Pennsylvania State University Press, 1991.</p>
<p>Democracy activists today are working aainst hundreds of years of systematic  dumb-down done by the predator elites.  Direct democracy means lots of rights and freedoms.  That stuff knocks corruption-driven profits and power for the favored few right in the head. </p>
<p> Across all of human history, there&#8217;ve been very few effective chanllenges to the dominance of the predators.  Got money, weapons, and private armies?  Willing to lie, cheat, and murder for profits and power?  Then you and your posterity rule &#8212; for thousands of years at a time.</p>
<p>Two big, effective challenges to the predators were the direct democracy solutions developed in the American Colonial and Reform Eras.  The predators will sacrifice any of us to keep the majority dumbed-down about how easily predators can be controlled by direct democracy. </p>
<p>Read, study, think, discuss &#8211; and question everything. </p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good Adrian.  I know one thing for sure, those Vermonters are somewhat different, even today.  I&#039;ve been in Vermont many times and really like the terrain and the people.  The Green Mountains are really beautiful.  But don&#039;t go there in the winter, except to ski.

Last time I was in Vermont I walked out of the Hotel to face a 20 MPH wind and 25 below temperature.  By the time i had walked around a hundred feet my face was hurting.

Thanks again for this article.  I&#039;m going to do some more reading up on the populism there and what made it go.  I have read somewhat about Lake Champlaine and how it was once a Salt Water inlet to the Ocean. 

What a historic place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good Adrian.  I know one thing for sure, those Vermonters are somewhat different, even today.  I&#8217;ve been in Vermont many times and really like the terrain and the people.  The Green Mountains are really beautiful.  But don&#8217;t go there in the winter, except to ski.</p>
<p>Last time I was in Vermont I walked out of the Hotel to face a 20 MPH wind and 25 below temperature.  By the time i had walked around a hundred feet my face was hurting.</p>
<p>Thanks again for this article.  I&#8217;m going to do some more reading up on the populism there and what made it go.  I have read somewhat about Lake Champlaine and how it was once a Salt Water inlet to the Ocean. </p>
<p>What a historic place.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good article...i has to drag out an old old reference dictionary to look up the meaning of a couple of words into plain english..but other than that, a wonderful bit of information &amp; history...gee steve thinks to himself...what is there stopping anyone or group in any other state (but air) from trying to get their state to give that a go...Oh silly me...i know it&#039;s greed,political curruption and the like...sorry...had a senior moment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good article&#8230;i has to drag out an old old reference dictionary to look up the meaning of a couple of words into plain english..but other than that, a wonderful bit of information &amp; history&#8230;gee steve thinks to himself&#8230;what is there stopping anyone or group in any other state (but air) from trying to get their state to give that a go&#8230;Oh silly me&#8230;i know it&#8217;s greed,political curruption and the like&#8230;sorry&#8230;had a senior moment!</p>
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		<title>By: Spoonerite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spoonerite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of a great article that I read on LewRockwell some time ago - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff119.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Local Democracy for Christmas&lt;/a&gt;

Good stuff here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a great article that I read on LewRockwell some time ago &#8211; <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff119.html" rel="nofollow">Local Democracy for Christmas</a></p>
<p>Good stuff here!</p>
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