Comments on: What's Happening in Gaza

By: FreeKent

FreeKent — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:39:51 +0000

Arabs and Jews have lived in peace many times throughout history. Madjid, Cliff, thanks for pointing out so much of this important history. Important because the facts that you refer to are just not known in the mainstream

By: Madjid

Madjid — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:01:04 +0000

Cliff Carson,

thank you very much for these pieces of information, because I have noticed that lots of people around the world ignored the real history of the Jews especially the Zionists, and they deal with the problem of the Palestine like if the lands belonged to the Israelis since several centuries.
I think it is a policy for concealing this reality to the rest of world, and it’s what I tried to explain to Trish.
But as I can see, you do it better than me, so thank you again.

I would like to add another story about Jews who used to live in Algeria before the French colonisation. They lived in peace with the Algerians and they had the Algerian nationality, but after the colonisation, and when the others fought the Frenchs, they changed their position and they considered themselves like colonists.

By: Cliff Carson

Cliff Carson — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:20:01 +0000

Trish. Do not leave this site or this thread. We need discussion to ever solve a problem. I read all these comments and I think all have some good points.

I want to note something that I haven’t seen on here. The History.

The problem of Palestine began sometime around 1880. The Russians were expelling Jews and the Palestinians invited the Russian Jews to come live in Palestine in Peace with the indigenous Arabs. The came and all was well until Zionism reared its ugly head around the turn of the century ( 1900).

The most militant Zionist creed ( there are three ) believe that God gave the land to the Jews and that God told the Jews to cleanse the land of all non-Jewish people. Thus began the friction. By WWI it was getting pretty rough. After WWI and before WWII the Zionists were committing atrocities against the Arab population and after WWII the world felt sorry for the Jews and thought that giving them a Homeland in Palestine would be a good thing. But they didn’t take the Zionists into account.

Zionist really stepped up terrorism on the Arabs beginning around 1937 and continued it right up until the establishment of Israel in 1948. For the Zionist dream to be realized, the Arabs had to be expelled from Israel, by force if they resisted.

Even that wasn’t enough. Some factions of Zionism believes God wants them to restore Ersatz Israel ( an Israel stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates ). This is the true goal of the Zionist. The Palestinians don’t want to give their land to the Jews.

That brings us up to date.

By: iknoweverything

iknoweverything — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:37:56 +0000

hahha i know everything!!!!

By: trish

trish — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:01:16 +0000

“You also might want to try to engage in other discussion threads, Trish.”

I’m not sure what this means.

Is this an invitation ? …..or a request that I leave.

By: Kureen

Kureen — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:04:26 +0000

Anybody see the NY Times editorial on a one-state solution in the Middle East? I think it’s a great idea, in fact they could even call it Israel if they want to. Then we can see how good the Israeli’s are – will they grant equal rights to people of another race and religion, or…….??

By: Madjid

Madjid — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:04:47 +0000

Please Trich, answer me, how Palestinians can get back their stolen lands ????. suggest a solution and don’t tell me they will do it by discussing with Israel. you have to be naïve to think so.

By: Amber

Amber — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:39:15 +0000

hey trish, i know its hard to believe the fact that innocent civillians are dying because of the political pretense in which you are thinking. (im guessing your American)

ok so Gaza is like your family. and all the nieghbors (the countries) (who i guess are extremely powerful) say that that house is yours no worry…but then Israel another niegbor says they want to expand takes that house and declears it thiers not yours (Gazas).
your family is then angry so your attacking for what little opressed land you have.

bottom line US is still suplying Isreal because of Bush’s stupid decree that we must help our ally Isreal even if thier intentions are absolutley horrific and unjust.

Isreal is bully. no doubt in my mind that nothing will stop because of the GREED of Isreal.

By: Madjid

Madjid — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:09:53 +0000

Trish, really I get a relief that you recognise that since 1948 Israel annexes (steals) lands to Palestinians. What do you expect them to do? Maybe to be happy??
If someone obliges you to leave home, please don’t tell me that you are going to do nothing and if you try to fight in order to get back your house he calls you a terrorist. It’s what happens in Palestine since 60 years.
You must to deal with the problem just like a human being, please forget your origin your nationality (think just as a human being) and answer me.

By: Michael Boldin

Michael Boldin — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:15:42 +0000

If you want to understand our position on such things, the answers are already published here:

http://www.populistamerica.com/ten_planks

You also might want to try to engage in other discussion threads, Trish.